Comments on: Tubby, time out, turnovers, put tournament in doubt http://fromthebarn.org/2009/03/08/tubby-time-out-turnovers-put-tournament-in-doubt/ This is Golden Gopher Basketball Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:46:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Matt http://fromthebarn.org/2009/03/08/tubby-time-out-turnovers-put-tournament-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-2652 Matt Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:47:38 +0000 http://fromthebarn.org/?p=882#comment-2652 It's pretty clear to me that if two teams have nearly identical RPIs and nearly identical records, but one team wins the home and home, then that team can rightly consider itself "better" -- they proved it on the floor. Michigan didn't leave Novak and LLP wide open all games long from deep, that was the Minny defense. FWIW, here are the teams with 6 wins over top 50 RPI teams this year: Pitt, Duke, UNC, UConn, Oklahoma, Michigan State, Kansas, Louisville, Xavier, Villanova, Illinois, Purdue, Texas, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Northwestern Pretty impressive list from the B10, including Michigan. It’s pretty clear to me that if two teams have nearly identical RPIs and nearly identical records, but one team wins the home and home, then that team can rightly consider itself “better” — they proved it on the floor. Michigan didn’t leave Novak and LLP wide open all games long from deep, that was the Minny defense.

FWIW, here are the teams with 6 wins over top 50 RPI teams this year:

Pitt, Duke, UNC, UConn, Oklahoma, Michigan State, Kansas, Louisville, Xavier, Villanova, Illinois, Purdue, Texas, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Northwestern

Pretty impressive list from the B10, including Michigan.

]]> By: JF http://fromthebarn.org/2009/03/08/tubby-time-out-turnovers-put-tournament-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-2650 JF Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:10:50 +0000 http://fromthebarn.org/?p=882#comment-2650 Lucas-Perry and Novak are clearly consistent 20 ppg scorers. Lucas-Perry and Novak are clearly consistent 20 ppg scorers.

]]> By: Chris http://fromthebarn.org/2009/03/08/tubby-time-out-turnovers-put-tournament-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-2649 Chris Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:09:31 +0000 http://fromthebarn.org/?p=882#comment-2649 Michigan won by 14 in Ann Arbor and by 3 in The Barn. I think its clear who the better team is. Michigan won by 14 in Ann Arbor and by 3 in The Barn. I think its clear who the better team is.

]]> By: JF http://fromthebarn.org/2009/03/08/tubby-time-out-turnovers-put-tournament-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-2648 JF Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:36:10 +0000 http://fromthebarn.org/?p=882#comment-2648 The Gophers actually torched the 1-3-1, and then man to man. It was the 2-3 that did them in, and they still should have won. Look at the statistics, and then try to convince yourself that the better team won. The Gophers actually torched the 1-3-1, and then man to man. It was the 2-3 that did them in, and they still should have won.

Look at the statistics, and then try to convince yourself that the better team won.

]]> By: Matt http://fromthebarn.org/2009/03/08/tubby-time-out-turnovers-put-tournament-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-2647 Matt Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:13:41 +0000 http://fromthebarn.org/?p=882#comment-2647 "better team on that day" I mean. “better team on that day” I mean.

]]> By: Matt http://fromthebarn.org/2009/03/08/tubby-time-out-turnovers-put-tournament-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-2646 Matt Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:12:24 +0000 http://fromthebarn.org/?p=882#comment-2646 Sure, you guys should have won the game based on being at home, but it's not like Michigan is an inferior team -- arguably Michigan's resume is better, and they won the first matchup. I know it burns to have had the chance to lock up your bid and then blow a 12 point late 2nd half lead at home, but give Michigan some credit. Tubby had no answer for when Michigan went to the 1-3-1 almost exclusively down the stretch and Michigan's two NBA prospects played like NBA prospects. Granted UM's depth sucks and LLP suddenly remembered what got him a full ride to Arizona -- but these were two evenly matched teams and the better team won. That said, good luck to you guys, represent the B10 well if you get in, and I enjoyed the blog post. Sure, you guys should have won the game based on being at home, but it’s not like Michigan is an inferior team — arguably Michigan’s resume is better, and they won the first matchup.

I know it burns to have had the chance to lock up your bid and then blow a 12 point late 2nd half lead at home, but give Michigan some credit.

Tubby had no answer for when Michigan went to the 1-3-1 almost exclusively down the stretch and Michigan’s two NBA prospects played like NBA prospects. Granted UM’s depth sucks and LLP suddenly remembered what got him a full ride to Arizona — but these were two evenly matched teams and the better team won.

That said, good luck to you guys, represent the B10 well if you get in, and I enjoyed the blog post.

]]> By: Monday Bracketology Update | UM Hoops.com http://fromthebarn.org/2009/03/08/tubby-time-out-turnovers-put-tournament-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-2645 Monday Bracketology Update | UM Hoops.com Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:03:39 +0000 http://fromthebarn.org/?p=882#comment-2645 [...] Tubby, time out, turnovers, put tournament in doubt From the Barn with the Minnesota take on things [...] [...] Tubby, time out, turnovers, put tournament in doubt From the Barn with the Minnesota take on things [...]

]]> By: Curt http://fromthebarn.org/2009/03/08/tubby-time-out-turnovers-put-tournament-in-doubt/comment-page-1/#comment-2641 Curt Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:17:11 +0000 http://fromthebarn.org/?p=882#comment-2641 "Calling a time out allowed Michigan’s defense to set up. It also forced the Gophers to inbound the ball, something that has been mysteriously complicated for them since November" Exactly. When we haven't been able to execute an offense all season, why would we think we can with 4.2 seconds to go during the last home game (...unless we get a home NIT game after an early Big 10 tourney exit...)? “Calling a time out allowed Michigan’s defense to set up. It also forced the Gophers to inbound the ball, something that has been mysteriously complicated for them since November”

Exactly. When we haven’t been able to execute an offense all season, why would we think we can with 4.2 seconds to go during the last home game (…unless we get a home NIT game after an early Big 10 tourney exit…)?

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